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31 Mar.,2025

 

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[the power-adder] will make an engine detonate,” Speed-Pro’s Scott Gabrielson says. “It’s just how much.” For these applications, consider upgraded gas-nitrided ductile iron or steel rings, such as Speed-Pro’s Hellfire or Perfect Circle’s Firepower series.

The modern, thin, metric rings also need to be made from better materials to maintain adequate strength, prevent flutter, and withstand greater heat. For them, high-carbon steel is usually the baseline material of choice. Steel used to be considerably more expensive than iron, but thanks to huge volume purchases by OEM manufacturers, the price is coming down in much the same way that hydraulic roller cams have become affordable. Many of the pistons in JE’s new SRP Pro line use thin rings, but JE says pricing is now about the same as its old 1/16 rings.

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According to Speed-Pro, plasma-moly remains the preferred coating for steel rings, although gas-nitriding is starting to supplant it. Somewhat akin to the hardening process typically applied to forged crankshafts, gas-nitriding is a surface treatment that hardens the ring face to make it wear resistant while still remaining compatible with the cylinder-wall and piston surfaces. OEM rings with gas-nitriding are intended to last for up to 200,000 miles.

Dirt track cars have the potential for intake system contamination, and some of these guys still prefer a chrome-faced top ring, although improvements in plasma-moly rings have caused many to switch because the moly ring has about 1,000 degrees more heat resistance compared with old-school chrome rings. Many OEMs are again using chrome-faced rings now made from entirely new technology. In fact, the team at Total Seal says that modern, thin rings with vacuum chamber-deposited chromium-nitride have eliminated all the drawbacks of traditional chrome rings and are price-competitive with high-end moly rings.

Some guys in the blown fuel classes use stainless steel Dykes rings. The L-shaped Dykes or headland ring typically has a 1/16-inch face with an 0.017- or 0.031-inch step in the back of it, offering gas pressurization without the need for gas ports. Dykes rings need a special piston, are hard to seat, and accelerate cylinder-bore wear, so they’re preferred for only very specialized applications.

The ultrathin rings for high-end pro racing use, such as NASCAR Cup engines or NHRA Pro Stock drag racers, may have exotic, very expensive tungsten or titanium nitride coatings applied using positive vapor deposition over a steel or even stainless steel ring body. This improves wear characteristics while reducing friction even further. But a Cup engine’s three-piece ring set for just one piston costs about $160, so this high-end technology isn’t yet practical for real-world applications.

Ring makers continue to experiment with different grades of steel, different heat-treating processes, and new coatings. The goal is to further reduce friction and improve durability without beating up the cylinder wall. At the high end, things are changing almost on a monthly basis, but as Total Seal’s Keith Jones puts it, “If I told you what we’re working on, I’d have to kill you.”

The Second Ring
For more than 40 years, the reverse-bevel, taper-face, plain-cast-iron second ring has been the standard. Heat is not really a problem in the second groove, so there has been no need for superexotic materials or coatings (moly rings are a waste here). Today, most second rings continue to be made from cast iron or (for some high-end applications) ductile iron. However, second ring configuration is evolving: Modern theory holds that the second ring is about 85 to 90 percent oil control and only 5 to 10 percent compression control, so to better manage the oil, there’s a definite trend toward the Napier (hooked or claw-shaped) second ring. In fact, most GM LS engines come stock with Napier rings. The Napier ring creates a reservoir for the scraped oil to flow through. “If you undercut the bottom of the ring, it exposes more of the endgap back into the ring groove, which opens up the flow area, providing a reservoir for the scraped oil,” says Speed-Pro’s Scott Gabrielson. A side benefit is that the Napier allows opening up the second ring gap volume even more, improving inter-ring pressure relief. If available for your application, the Napier can only help, never hurt, overall performance.

The Oil Ring
Although some imports and high-end racers have been experimenting with an integrated single-piece oil ring design, the three-piece configuration consisting of an expander sandwiched between top and bottom rails remains the standard. However, tension and mass have been reduced for improved oil control, fuel economy, and horsepower. Perfect Circle’s Bill McKnight says that “ring tension accounts for about 40 percent of total engine friction, with the oil rings alone accounting for 50 percent of the ring pack friction.” The key to reducing tension is the ring’s radial depth (for-and-aft width as it sits in the ring groove): If you maintain the traditional SAE-standard 0.190- inch depth, you still need higher-tension oil rings, but by decreasing radial depth to around 0.140 to 0.150 with a correspondingly machined piston, tension can be reduced because the overall oil ring assembly is more flexible and better conforms to the bore. With a thinner ring, even though overall tension is reduced, the effective unit pressure (cylinder wall loading) is higher. “Narrower rails make more pressure,” Jones says.

Regularly driven cars should still use a standard-tension oil ring. A traditional standard-tension ring for a 3/16-inch-od x 0.200-inch-deep oil ring groove in a classic small-block iron-block engine once had about 20 to 22 pounds of tension; today it’s about 18 to 19 pounds. Big-blocks were around 23 to 24 pounds; now they’re down to 21 to 22 pounds. Old-school low-tension rings have dropped to 12 to 14 pounds from the previous 15 to 18 pounds. So-called standard-tension 3mm x 0.135 to 0.150-inch-deep metric rings designed to replace the old-school 3/16 rings in classic small-blocks have only about 15 to 17 pounds of tension.

Today’s late-model engines are designed from the ground up for inherently better oil control, operating with tighter bearing clearances, and lower total oil volume in the engine-so they’re naturals for lower-tension rings. Ford Modular V-8 and GM LS engines come stock with only 9- to 10-pound rings. Meanwhile, in the extremes of pro racing, tension ranges from a NASCAR Cup car 1.5- to 2mm-thick oil ring with 2.5 to 4 pounds of tension to a 25-pound Top Fuel oil control ring.

The shape and profile of the expander’s drain-back holes are also changing. The trend is toward larger, rounder holes in the expander; old-school expanders had little slits. “If you can see the piston’s oil drain-back holes through the expander, the oil has a less restrictive return path,” maintains JE Pistons’ Randy Gillis.

Finally, there are special oil rings designed for stroker applications where the piston is so short that the oil ring impinges on the piston pinhole. Nowadays the preferred solution is adding an additional special dimpled rail support below the three-piece oil ring.

How Thin is Too Thin?
There’s no doubt that thin rings improve power and mileage in a properly built engine, but just how thin a ring you can run in a nonprofessional application is still evolving. Everybody agrees that 1/16 rings are the maximum anyone needs today, but what about those who really want to push the envelope? One consideration is bore size. On large-bore engines, there may be insufficient radial depth to maintain adequate tension under high combustion pressures. For this reason, at present, JE Pistons recommends not going thinner than 1/16-1/16-3/16 on a regularly driven big-block with more than 4.25-inch bore sizes when using conventionally machined pistons. On the other hand, Mahle is converting all its shelf pistons (even those for big-blocks) to the 1.5-1.5-3mm standard; below 3.5-inch bore sizes, Mahle is going to 1.0-1.2-2.5mm packages.

One workaround for running thin rings on a big-bore motor is gas porting. Pistons can be gas-ported via vertical holes in the piston deck or lateral slots in the top of the first ring groove. Gas porting allows combustion pressure to directly enter behind the top ring on the power stroke, pressuring the area behind the top ring for enhanced sealing. The ring retains normal tension for reduced friction through the rest of the four-stroke cycle. Vertical holes are more common for drag cars; oval trackers seem to prefer lateral gas ports, which are more resistant to carbon fouling under long-term use. “Gas porting will increase horsepower on every application, but it does wear rings out faster,” Gillis cautions.

Most small-blocks have 4- or 4.125-inch-based bores. In this range, everyone says 1.2mm (0.043-inch) or 1.5mm compression rings with 2.5mm or 3mm oil rings are acceptable in nearly every case. Old-school Chevy small-blocks should probably stay to the high side, and the latest new-gen engines to the lower side. And even serious power-adder apps can go thin if the rings are made from steel and nitride-coated.

Want to go thinner yet, like the Cup guys? You’ll need positive crankcase evacuation induced by a vacuum pump plus a dry-sump lubrication system. Of course, successfully running these thin rings requires a complementary piston and enhanced machining.

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The Piston
To work properly, thin rings must be absolutely flat with no runout. According to Gillis, “Rings seal at the bottom of the piston ring groove as well as the outside perimeter of the ring. As the rings got flatter, we had to make the ring grooves flatter.” Only modern, precision CNC-machining can achieve such absolutely flat piston ring grooves. “You don’t make pistons on a lathe anymore,” Gabrielson says with a chuckle. The plus or minus tolerances have been tightened up to such an extent that some manufacturers now claim to hold tolerances to the millionths of an inch (one microinch or 0.).

Piston skirt profile and machining have also changed. Manufacturers have found that the piston skirt cam and barrel shape affect ring seal and stability. Even whether the skirt profile is turned (machined) from the oil ring down or from the bottom up has an effect. We all have our own pet theories.

How to choose piston rings - Don Terrill's Speed-Talk

How to choose piston rings

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Post by frnkeore » Sat Jun 01, 3:17 am

So not to high jack the 5/64 vs 1.5mm ring thread, I thought I'd open this one, to maybe get more details on how and what works, for different applications.

This ring thing, is very confusing.

I think I understand that a thinner ring with have less friction but, there are so dam many thin rings now. This is a list of the ones I know about:
.9mm = .
1mm = .
.043
1.2mm = .
1.5mm = .059
.
.
., still used in some old OEM applications

There are also different materials:
gray iron
ductile
steel
SS

And there are many face contours, as well as plating's, you can add to that gas ported rings, too. That for the upper two rings and then you have lots of options for the oil control rings, in both width and tension.

The first two things I would like info/opinions on is gas ported rings and low tension oil rings. When is gas porting needed and how low can you go with low tension oil rings w/o a vacuum pump?

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Post by mag » Sat Jun 01, 7:22 am

In terms of gas porting I think the preference is now to use half moon grooved in the top ring land.
There far less likely to load up and clog off, but I guess you need more of them then the round hole type due to the reduction in area. You can cut a man's tongue from his mouth, but that does not mean he’s a liar, it just shows that you fear the truth he might speak about you!

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Post by Lizardracing » Sat Jun 01, 2:07 pm

I choose the piston first, then the rings for the block material, hose to ring manufactures spec. That's per Total Seal instructions to me.

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Post by frnkeore » Sun Jun 02, 12:19 pm

I was hoping for more input on this subject so that I could have, at least, good, better, best options to choose from but, more than that, I think it's info that most high end engine builders would have strong opinions on and before laying out money for pistons, I have to spec a ring for them.

Also, I was hoping to get some general info on directions to go, that could have a good cost/benefit ratio, if not for me but, for others, in selecting rings for their applications.

In hopes of getting some specific info, for my build and what rings would be best, here is what it is:

4.280 bore x 4.100 stroke
1.550 CH, 18cc dish
aluminum
0.000 deck clearance x .040 head gasket

This engine has 350 cfm heads and is cammed for to rpm.

At the moment this is the ring set I'm considering, unless I can find something better.

Hastings SM 4.28 - .043 Steel, .043 Duc/Nap, 3mm 11 lb Oil

What are your thoughts?

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Post by Walter R. Malik » Sun Jun 02, 1:46 pm

What and how rings are chosen and used has everything to do with the end usage of the engine to be built.
Using something normally used in a high horsepower, high RPM engine would be totally wrong in a grocery getter rebuild ... and visa-versa.
AND, then there is all those engines built "in between". http://www.rmcompetition.com
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Post by frnkeore » Sun Jun 02, 6:30 pm

Walter R. Malik wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 1:46 pm What and how rings are chosen and used has everything to do with the end usage of the engine to be built.
Using something normally used in a high horsepower, high RPM engine would be totally wrong in a grocery getter rebuild ... and visa-versa.
AND, then there is all those engines built "in between".
So, at what point would you use gas ported pistons, in a NA engine?

Also, in what kind of build would .9 x .9 x 2mm be an advantage over what I'm considering?

How low of oil ring tension, can you use with exhaust evacuated crank case?

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Post by Walter R. Malik » Sun Jun 02, 6:57 pm

frnkeore wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 6:30 pm
Walter R. Malik wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 1:46 pm What and how rings are chosen and used has everything to do with the end usage of the engine to be built.
Using something normally used in a high horsepower, high RPM engine would be totally wrong in a grocery getter rebuild ... and visa-versa.
AND, then there is all those engines built "in between".
So, at what point would you use gas ported pistons, in a NA engine?

Also, in what kind of build would .9 x .9 x 2mm be an advantage over what I'm considering?

How low of oil ring tension, can you use with exhaust evacuated crank case?
I will tell you what I have found but, it is certainly not to reflect the "be all, end all".

Gas ports tend to make the rings wear faster, (the thinner the ring, the faster they wear), but, do give slightly more power to the engine; your choice as to what is most important in THAT engine.
They are almost necessary with .043" thick radial dimension rings; unless you are seeking longevity.
Otherwise, they are usually most power effective for me when using fatter, back-cut rings in shallower grooves.
The best quality of thin rings is their conformability to the bore.

I have run 3/16" oil rings as low as 7 pounds fish scale drag with ATF, leaving a whisper of oil residue in the chamber without a crankcase air pump.

Anything else, I usually do whatever the ring manufacturer wants. http://www.rmcompetition.com
Specialty engine building at its finest.

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Post by Warp Speed » Mon Jun 03, 10:10 am

Walter R. Malik wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 6:57 pm
frnkeore wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 6:30 pm
Walter R. Malik wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 1:46 pm What and how rings are chosen and used has everything to do with the end usage of the engine to be built.
Using something normally used in a high horsepower, high RPM engine would be totally wrong in a grocery getter rebuild ... and visa-versa.
AND, then there is all those engines built "in between".
So, at what point would you use gas ported pistons, in a NA engine?

Also, in what kind of build would .9 x .9 x 2mm be an advantage over what I'm considering?

How low of oil ring tension, can you use with exhaust evacuated crank case?
I will tell you what I have found but, it is certainly not to reflect the "be all, end all".

Gas ports tend to make the rings wear faster, (the thinner the ring, the faster they wear), but, do give slightly more power to the engine; your choice as to what is most important in THAT engine.
They are almost necessary with .043" thick radial dimension rings; unless you are seeking longevity.
Otherwise, they are usually most power effective for me when using fatter, back-cut rings in shallower grooves.
The best quality of thin rings is their conformability to the bore.

I have run 3/16" oil rings as low as 7 pounds fish scale drag with ATF, leaving a whisper of oil residue in the chamber without a crankcase air pump.

Anything else, I usually do whatever the ring manufacturer wants.
What portion of the ring is wearing faster due to gas ports?

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Post by Walter R. Malik » Mon Jun 03, 11:00 am

Warp Speed wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 10:10 am
Walter R. Malik wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 6:57 pm
frnkeore wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 6:30 pm
So, at what point would you use gas ported pistons, in a NA engine?

Also, in what kind of build would .9 x .9 x 2mm be an advantage over what I'm considering?

How low of oil ring tension, can you use with exhaust evacuated crank case?
I will tell you what I have found but, it is certainly not to reflect the "be all, end all".

Gas ports tend to make the rings wear faster, (the thinner the ring, the faster they wear), but, do give slightly more power to the engine; your choice as to what is most important in THAT engine.
They are almost necessary with .043" thick radial dimension rings; unless you are seeking longevity.
Otherwise, they are usually most power effective for me when using fatter, back-cut rings in shallower grooves.
The best quality of thin rings is their conformability to the bore.

I have run 3/16" oil rings as low as 7 pounds fish scale drag with ATF, leaving a whisper of oil residue in the chamber without a crankcase air pump.

Anything else, I usually do whatever the ring manufacturer wants.
What portion of the ring is wearing faster due to gas ports?
The face and the bore itself is what I have witnessed.

I am talking about 10,000 street miles instead of 25, 000 or more. http://www.rmcompetition.com
Specialty engine building at its finest.

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Post by jsgarage » Mon Jun 03, 2:58 pm

For poor boys that want to freshen up an existing combination of still usable pistons with wider grooves instead of buying all-new pistons for some size of new thin rings, there are several companies that now make flat steel spacers to resize wider piston grooves for thin rings, ported or not.

They likely will not work quite as well as pistons specifically cut for a thin ring and it introduces more complication in engine assembly, but they're a cheaper way of trying the concept out, maybe for several different thickness of ring in your engine combo and ascertaining any extra face wear.

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Post by Walter R. Malik » Mon Jun 03, 4:37 pm

Clicked on the wrong subject. http://www.rmcompetition.com
Specialty engine building at its finest.

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Post by frnkeore » Mon Jun 03, 5:23 pm

jsgarage wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2:58 pm For poor boys that want to freshen up an existing combination of still usable pistons with wider grooves instead of buying all-new pistons for some size of new thin rings, there are several companies that now make flat steel spacers to resize wider piston grooves for thin rings, ported or not.

They likely will not work quite as well as pistons specifically cut for a thin ring and it introduces more complication in engine assembly, but they're a cheaper way of trying the concept out, maybe for several different thickness of ring in your engine combo and ascertaining any extra face wear.
Can you list the company's and/or web sites?

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Post by Roundybout » Mon Jun 03, 7:31 pm

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I know Total Seal makes a spacer to be able to use thinner rings in pistons with grooves meant for thicker rings. 1.2mm" or .8mm" rings in 5/64 groove or .8mm" rings in 1/16 groove for example.

Not sure how I like that idea long term or as a solution though. Ring flutter and not a true representation of what a thin ring can and can't do for you. Not to mention just more crevices for things to hide and carbon up. Don't know how that would react to piston ports either. I think they are mainly used for classes where standard width piston grooves are required or some other silly rule.