RAY: It's an interesting question, Iggy. We used to replace hoses all the time, as preventive maintenance. And we made a pile of money doing it. Ahh, the good old days! Back then, hoses typically would last four, maybe five years, before the rubber would harden up and be susceptible to failure. But something has changed. It may be that with engines running hotter, and everything crammed into smaller engine compartments, manufacturers had to improve the rubber compounds to withstand the extra heat. Whatever they did worked, because we almost never replace hoses anymore.
In fact, recently, a customer with a Honda Accord came in to the shop and asked us to change all of his hoses. Like you, Iggy, he was raised during the Hose Changing Era. So I called our local Honda parts guy, and he said he didnt even have all the hoses. He said they dont stock them all anymore, because they rarely fail. The only time they need to be replaced now is when the car is in an accident and a hose gets physically damaged. Rodents may be a bigger threat to hoses these days than heat and time.
So if you were a customer of mine, and I saw no signs of brittle rubber, cracking or impending failure, Id tell you not to bother changing the hoses, and just plan to check them next time you were in for service. But since we mechanics are also amateur psychologists, if I knew you were going to be up at night, pacing the floor or waking up screaming from a blown-head-gasket nightmare, Id order the hoses for you and encourage you to spend a couple hundred bucks to buy yourself a little peace of mind, Iggy. You certainly wont do any harm by changing them.
One or more weak motor mounts could be cause of clunking
Dear Car Talk:
Five years ago, I bought a Volvo S60 demo with only 4,000 miles on it. It has been a great car and now has just 58,000 miles on it. But over the past few months, the car has developed a loud clunking sound and slight jerking of the car when I go from park to drive, or park to reverse. The issue comes and goes. Of course, when I took it to the dealership, the problem disappeared. David
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RAY: Sounds like a classic case of a bad motor mount, David. What you're hearing is the engine shifting position when you change gears.
Motor mounts serve three purposes. The first is to hold the engine in place. Obviously, you dont want it to fall out onto the street while youre driving. But you also dont want it to move around inside the engine compartment. There are lots of counter-forces acting on the engine when it sends power to the wheels. And without the mounts, the engine would be doing the Macarena under the hood.
The second purpose of the engine mounts is to damp the engines vibrations. So there are rubber bushings in each mount that are there to absorb the vibrations, so youre not doing the Macarena in the drivers seat whenever the engines running. And the third purpose of the motor mounts is to fail when your mechanic has a college tuition payment coming up for one of his kids.
I believe there are four motor mounts in this car. The most common culprit is the one that goes from the firewall to the top of the cylinder head. If your mount was broken completely, youd get the clunk every single time. So its not gone yet. Though it might be by the time you read this. That actually would be good. Because when its completely broken, its easy to see the engine moving back and forth when you shift from drive to reverse. Itll move a lot, and your mechanic will have no trouble diagnosing it then. So ask him to check all of your motor mounts, David. More than one may be weak and getting ready to fail.
Traditional preventative maintenance to a rigid time schedule is a bit old fashioned nowadays as it is expensive to implement and maintain, both in parts and labour. Much more emphasis nowaday is placed on inspection, measurement and monitoring often by computer and sensors, a good example being variable oil change service implemented by VW/Audi and most car makers selling to Europe.
It is not even particularly effective as parts sometimes break even long before any expected "average" life if given so most makers have implemented periodic "check up" inspections where crucial parts most at risk are examined to ascertain any problems or deterioration before they become serious, similarly most cars have the dreaded computer controlled warning lights and engine "limp mode"
Modern "rubber" parts including modern hoses can have a very long life indeed, which is why they seldom feature for being changed routinely and can often have a useful life as a salvage part long after the original vehicle has gone to the breakers yard.
It does pay to inspect things like hoses, vacuum lines, ball joint and gaiters from time to time for accidental damage and that they flex without any sign of cracking and splitting. Any sign of cracking will give you time to arrange a replacement. Failure such as ripping or splitting of most is unlikely to have any immediate consequences in most cases but on some, like ball or CV drive joints dirt and debris can enter and in time damage mechanical components requiring expensive replacement over and above a new gaiter
Failure of a coolant hose will be obvious, even sudden failure would give you plenty of time to stop the car before damage
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