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Ok, before we start... I know, I know, I know... if you buy pro, you only cry once, when you buy it... and so on. The thing is, I am trying to put together a small, versatile location lighting and grip kit for low budget fictional narrative work and I just can't swing paying for full pro lighting control gear. What I need to put together is a DIY solution for a useful scrim set and I don't know anything about what is available at the big box hardware stores in regards to this. Does anyone have any advice on what kind of screen material I can find locally to use as scrim material? I use mostly tungsten lighting so I would probably want to use metal screening. Is the density of readily available screen material quantified and if so, what should I look for in selecting some for use as a light control device? Any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Black Bobbinet is what you should get from a fabric store. A double is usually just a single doubled up.
Ok, I will look for that.
A used place (that I will not name because I'm going to buy some of these on Friday) has a pair of 24" X 36" doubles for $45 right now. If you look around for used at $20 to $30 each hardly seems worth the effort to make them.
Yeah, I know exactly what you are talking about... I saw those. The thing is that I need to get a basic grip kit together like yesterday and the $$ I have set aside needs to go for some more grip heads, C-Stands, arms, real flags (And I will DIY some of those with foam core also) and some other hardware. I just don't have the extra cash for real nets. I also want to have some material I can cut and shape for attachment to little magic arms so I can use them to help shape augmented practical lights and such. So, I need to go DIY at this time. I just did a shoot where I did a classic Film Noir lighting wall slash and I ended up having to scrim down on end of it. I used doubled up black lace material (Stolen from wardrobe) hung off of an extension arm. It worked great, but I need some more material that I can work with... and with the cash I have now.
If you have a friend that has ripped and old nets, you can send them to the rag place in LA and have them recover them for you. They only charge you half price or so if you have the metal frame and they return them brand new. Might be a little hassle with the shipping, but if you have a source for broken ones it could be the thing to do.
I had forgotten about The Rag Place. I have their site bookmarked and really liked what I saw from them. Thanks for the reminder.
Man - open-ended scrim frames with black net (or white diffusion) are insanely handy and I don't see a lot of killer ways to DIY 'em. Solids are easy - sheets of black foamcore work well, you just don't get the aiming ease of a pin.
If you can live without the open end, you might be able to use something like an aluminum picture frame? Even a sheet of 1/8 plywood with a big hole cut in it (which would fit in a grip head).
Those really are one thing I wouldn't bother with DIYing (unless you can weld and have access to some steel rod stock). A PVC frame with a sheet of ripstop and some superclamps will make you a really nice butterfly, but how many nets do you imagine needing on set? (9 times out of ten the look I'd use a net for ends up being a solid or a piece of foam core, but the nets are great for removing hot spots, etc). Google Canvas Grip (they sell sets and pairs on eBay as well).
Man - open-ended scrim frames with black net (or white diffusion) are insanely handy and I don't see a lot of killer ways to DIY 'em. Solids are easy - sheets of black foamcore work well, you just don't get the aiming ease of a pin.
If you can live without the open end, you might be able to use something like an aluminum picture frame? Even a sheet of 1/8 plywood with a big hole cut in it (which would fit in a grip head).
Those really are one thing I wouldn't bother with DIYing (unless you can weld and have access to some steel rod stock). A PVC frame with a sheet of ripstop and some superclamps will make you a really nice butterfly, but how many nets do you imagine needing on set? (9 times out of ten the look I'd use a net for ends up being a solid or a piece of foam core, but the nets are great for removing hot spots, etc). Google Canvas Grip (they sell sets and pairs on eBay as well).
That is the question that really is nagging me... How to do the open faced nets, without them buckling at the ends. I am going to get some screen material and some PVC type tubing/rigging to be able make something up in a pinch, especially like I noted above, to rig something to help knock down smaller lights and practicals. But I may just end up getting a couple of ready made open faced frames. I think having two really good ones would be enough for most of the stuff I do. I am going to see what I can come up with DIY first, to get a taste for it. I guess a long trip to Home Depot is in my future.... I do love those.
BTW, I went to the Canvas Grip site... Now what size should I get? 18"X24" or 24"X36"? I am inclined to get the bigger ones, but am not sure.
David,
If you want good DIY material, think aluminum expanded metal or perf metal. The McNichols links are just for reference. To buy this material, go to a sheet metal shop or supply shop and have them shear it to shape. Many will have something in stock. Try something like 14ga for thickness. It will cost some, but won't break the bank. Cover the edges with electrical wire harness split loom, or again from a sheet metal shop, have them run some S-lok trim. Marine supply house also have a product called trim-lok which is very nice, but expensive. The nice thing about this is that it will last forever, and then some, and be very durable.
http://www.mcnichols.com/products/expanded/material/aluminum/
http://www.mcnichols.com/products/perforated/material/aluminum/
If you have any questions about this, drop me a PM.
Grant
Even a 24x36 from Canvas Grip is under 30 bucks... are you sure that's really going to save any money? And once you have a sheet of diamond lath or expanded steel, how are you putting it on a stand? Guess you could just clamp it in a grip head... it's going to be heavier than a flag though...
Guys, I went a similar DIY route to make a large 4x4 frame out of light-weight conduit, and will probably be making a smaller one in the near future, depending on how this next step goes. I don't want to spend a ton with premade fabrics as they cost $50-$100 a piece at the size I need. I'm in college with limited funds so it doesn't need to look perfect. I'll get a set of RoadRags in the future. But for now...
I'm headed to the fabric store tomorrow or the next day to pick up a couple things. I figured I would need some silks, scrims, duvetyne and a solid white material. But how much variation will I really need?
The usual set is 1/4 silk, 1/2 silk, full silk, single net, double net, solid/flag, bounce, and then maybe something unique like a china silk. But for a 4x4 frame, what is likely to be needed? Small student narrative short films here. Plenty of volunteers, but not enough equipment (c-stands, frames). I have standard diffusion (Lee 1/4, 1/2, full, etc.) and gels in 12x12 sizes, plus a softbox.
Several materials that could be used for these (going the DIY route) would be:
Rip-Stop Nylon (Diffusion)
Bobbinet (Net)
Black Mesh (Net)
Chiffon (1/4 Silk)
Voile (1/4 Silk)
Frost Cloth (Full?)
Artificial Silk (Full?)
(Bleached) Muslin (Bounce; possibly not solid enough)
Duvetyne (Solid)
China Silk (1/2 Silk)
Once I figure out which material is actually needed, then I have to get it into a frame. This requires several problems to be overcome:
1. It's sold in 1 yard widths, so 2 pieces will have to be sewn together. Would someone be able to do this without it being noticeable, especially on the net/scrims? It seems piano wire is used for open-framed scrims, but would that work for pieces sewn together? I won't be doing the sewing.
2. I'd need a border added onto the material to prevent rips from forming. Is this standard and fairly simple?
3. Will any of these cause a moire effect?
4. Also, this website (http://www.rosebrand.com/subcategory326/diffusion-solutions.aspx) has plenty of fire-retardant (FR) materials. Would it be better to purchase from there? It's pricier. If not, how will I know if something is fire resistant without putting a match to it? There seems to be some material, for example chiffon, that is FR and other chiffon that isn't.
This is a lot to ask, and somewhat subjective, but I have little experience with framed scrims/butterflies so cannot say what I would need for myself. A generic package is needed, but I'd rather not get 1 of everything now if some are rarely used.
Thanks guys!